Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #5196

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Noch ein paar "aus Äußerungen im UK herausexzerpierte" Publikationen -und zwar noch bevor diese "genau so selektiv in den deutschen Staats-Medien verbreitet" werden:

Brexit: Theresa May tells MPs that her deal was better than Boris Johnson’s
Former PM urges successor to go back to the negotiating table to get better deal for services
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...l-b1780329.html

EU can shut off power supplies if UK tries to seize control of fish stocks, small print of deal reveals
Cables under Channel meet 8 per cent of demand - raising threat of higher prices and possible blackouts
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...s-b1780376.html

Boris Johnson fails to stand by false claim there will be no additional red tape under Brexit trade agreement
‘He wasn’t being straight with the British public,’ says Keir Starmer
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...f-b1780323.html

Boris Johnson pursuing Trump-style agenda to ‘work up white nationalism’, race equality thinktank says
Tories pushing narrative of 'white working class that's been left behind’ as US president did, says new head of Runnymede Trust
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...n-b1779883.html

Damit Bergman nicht erst noch auf die deutschen "Staats-Medien" warten muss. Und damit die ganz grossen Koenner schon mal was zum "zwischen den Zeilen lesen" haben.
Zufriedenheit allaround.

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Brexit 'big bang' to trigger tectonic trading rift in Europe
Europe will see its biggest transfer of share trading in more than two decades when stock exchanges open for business in 2021, with Brexit shifting its centre of gravity away from London.

While market players hope that years of preparations since Britain voted to leave the European Union means the transition of most euro-denominated assets like shares and derivatives out of the country will be relatively smooth, the long-term impact is unclear.
“This is a big bang event and that is one of the things that the market hasn’t truly understood yet,” Alasdair Haynes, chief executive of London-based share trading platform Aquis Exchange, told Reuters.
“This is literally everything moves on a specific day and we have got to pray to God that we don’t have some extraordinary event happen in the market that creates high volumes,” Haynes said.

While the landmark trade deal agreed last week set rules for industries such as fishing and agriculture, it did not cover Britain’s much larger finance sector, meaning automatic access to the EU’s financial markets comes to an end on Dec 31.

The following days will provide a first taste of the effects of the shift and regulators on both sides of the English Channel will be on alert for market dislocations on Jan 4, the first trading day of the new year.
The EU wants to reduce reliance on the City of London for financial services and see more euro-based trading in Frankfurt, Paris, Amsterdam and other financial centres in the bloc.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...e-idUKKBN2930HS

President Biden will choose Merkel and Macron over Trumpian Johnson
US President-elect Joe Biden’s administration will prove problematic for Boris Johnson and the UK Government. Not that Biden and his core team are anti-British, but they are unimpressed by both Johnson and his government especially with regards to Brexit and their dismal track record on handling the Covid-19 pandemic.
Boris Johnson bears a heavy responsibility for Brexit. He was one of many leading Brexiters who, orchestrated by the now departed special advisor Dominic Cummings, cajoled voters into leaving the EU without knowing or caring about what happened to Northern Ireland, to the Good Friday Agreement, and certainly to the Republic of Ireland. ...

... Charles Kupchan, an informal foreign policy advisor to the President-elect, has said that Britain’s declining influence in the world, caused by Brexit, meant that the US’ relationship with the UK might not “matter that much” once Biden is in the White House.
Along similar lines, Kupchan, who previously served in the Clinton administration and was Obama’s NSC director for European affairs, told the UK’s Times Radio that while he is “confident there will be a special relationship” between the US and United Kingdom, he did not know whether “that special relationship will take the form of anything more than a comfortable old friendship that doesn’t really produce much in terms of cooperation.”

A former US Ambassador to NATO, Nicholas Burns, said recently: “Brexit is going to weaken the UK and diminish its standing in the world, and I say that as a friend of the UK.”
Sir John Major has warned “Our hefty international influence rested on our history and reputation, buttressed by our membership of the European Union and our close alliance with the United States. Suddenly, we are no longer an irreplaceable bridge between Europe and America. We are now less relevant to them both.”

The EU is welcoming Joe Biden’s victory because his administration, which is likely to include many foreign policy officials that Europeans are already familiar with from the Barack Obama administration, would seek to restore transatlantic relations and US leadership more broadly. ...
The reality is that the US is a military and economic superpower, while the EU is an economic and regulatory superpower. The harsh reality for the UK is that it is no longer a military, economic and regulatory superpower despite the delusions of Boris Johnson and his government.
Team Biden sees this very clearly and is therefore going to favour early contacts with Germany and France.
https://ukandeu.ac.uk/president-biden-wi...umpian-johnson/

Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #5204

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #5200

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...Das UK hat Hongkonger Bürgern die Staatsbürgerschaft angeboten, Peking wird es dafür bluten lassen, jetzt, wo London die EU im Rücken fehlt, direkt oder indirekt.

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Das UK hat eben Rückgrat.
Die EU war für ihren Vertrag als Gegenleistung mit dieser klaren Zusage Chinas zufrieden:
"So habe die chinessische Führung zugesagt, „dauerhafte und nachhaltige Anstrengungen“ zur Ratifizierung zweier Konventionen der internationalen Arbeitsorganisation ILO gegen Zwangsarbeit zu unternehmen, wie aus einer internen Unterrichtung an die EU-Mitgliedsstaaten hervorgeht, die der dpa vorliegt. Kritiker sahen allerdings nur ein „oberflächliches Lippenbekenntnis“.
Peinlicher kann sich dieser Haufen EU nicht vorführen lassen.

Heute habe ich übrigens einen Kommentar von Herrn Bütikofer, seines Zeichens EU-Parlamentarier, gehört. Kennt den noch jemand? Alle in ihren Heimatländern abgehalfterten oder als unbrauchbar erkannten Politiker bekommen ihr Gnadenbrot in der EU.

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Illustration of a man proudly demonstrating what would in later years be known as the #Brexit manoeuvre:

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Ali Zartash-Lloyd@Cognisant2000
Will become known as "Brexiters' Duel"
4:23 PM · Dec 29, 2020

Eine Stimme aus Oesterreich:

Sebastian Kurz@sebastiankurz
Brexit negotiations have now come to an end with today’s signing of the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement.
I would like to thank the EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier for his relentless efforts to achieve a good deal.
3:43 AM · Dec 30, 2020

John MacAskill@John_G_MacA
As the Finnish saw #Brexit a few years ago.

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Sums up also the eventual deal and Scotland position. #indyref2, but first get out and vote in May.
10:54 AM · Dec 29, 2020

Wenn die Briten nun einen chronischen Husten bekommen, dann nimmt die EU sie wieder auf. Wenn die EU den Husten bekommt, dann treten weitere Länder aus.

Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #5211

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #5206

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...Ich bin kein Freund der EU in ihrer jetzigen Form, nur fehlt die Alternative. Das UK liegt mit zwei Supermächten über Kreuz, und zwei werden keine natürlichen Partner mehr sein.

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Das UK liegt wirtschaftlich nach Deutschland vor allen anderen EU-Staaten.
Und Japan, ohne Zusammenschluss mit schwächeren Ländern, stabil vor Deutschland.

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Bad Brexit deal for Scotland
Independence only way to regain full benefits of EU membership.

The Brexit deal agreed by the UK Government will remove Scotland from the European Single Market hitting jobs and the economy at the worst possible time, Constitution Secretary Michael Russell has said.
Against its will, and in the middle of a pandemic and economic recession, Scotland is being removed from a market worth £16 billion in exports to Scottish companies – and which by population is seven times the size of the UK – as well as the Customs Union.

The Scottish Government will do all it can to mitigate the worst effects of the deal on businesses and communities. ...

However, Mr Russell said this “hard Brexit” reinforces why it is so important for people in Scotland to have the right to decide their own future and to regain the full benefits of EU membership as an independent country.
https://www.gov.scot/news/bad-brexit-deal-for-scotland-1/

BoJo hat geliefert, wofür er gewählt wurde:
He got Brexit done, he got the EU-Deal done.
Dagegen kann nochsoviel Gewinsel in den Medien oder hier im Forum nicht anstinken :)

Dass ein Spitzenpolitiker feste Wahlversprechen gibt und diese nach seiner Wahl auch gegen alle Befindlichkeiten und Beliebtheitsumfragen durchboxt, kann man sich hierzulande gar nicht mehr vorstellen.

Zitat von Corto im Beitrag #5214

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BoJo hat geliefert, wofür er gewählt wurde:
He got Brexit done, he got the EU-Deal done.
Dagegen kann nochsoviel Gewinsel in den Medien oder hier im Forum nicht anstinken :)

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Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #5217

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Zitat von Corto im Beitrag #5214

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BoJo hat geliefert, wofür er gewählt wurde:
He got Brexit done, he got the EU-Deal done.
Dagegen kann nochsoviel Gewinsel in den Medien oder hier im Forum nicht anstinken :)

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Wegen Brexit

Vater von Boris Johnson will französische Staatsbürgerschaft beantragen

Großbritannien tritt aus dem EU-Binnenmarkt aus. Stanley Johnson, Vater des britischen Premierministers, will deshalb die französische Staatsbürgerschaft beantragen. »Ich werde immer Europäer sein«, sagte er.

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/v...c4-04393ef62ee9

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Fool Britannia
Brexit is here, so it’s time to review its grand promises. Spoiler: They got away with lies.

So here we are. Four and a half years, three prime ministers and two elections later, Britain finally has a Brexit deal. To do so, the country became divided by a Remain-vs.-Leave culture war, attacked its own democratic institutions, alienated its allies, and delighted its enemies. And what do we have to show for it? A Partnership Council with Europe, composed of dozens of technical subcommittees. Rarely in British history has such drama and high rhetoric ended in a result so drab.

Shortly before Prime Minister Boris Johnson persuaded the House of Commons to support the deal on Wednesday—just two days before it was to come into effect on January 1—he described this as a “historic resolution” that would finally solve the “old and vexed question of Britain’s political relations with Europe.” It is precisely the opposite.

This is not the end of anything; it is a beginning. Instead of negotiating as an equal member within the powerful European trading bloc, Britain will negotiate as an underpowered third party facing the wishes of 27 member-states. An intricate web of arbitration and retaliatory tariff-based punishments replace cooperation and debate. And those in Britain who long raged against the European Commission will instead rage against the Partnership Council.

The claim that Brexit meant closure was just the latest deceit in this long process, which was rooted in falsehoods from the start. Now that we know what Brexit really looks like, it’s worth recalling what its proponents promised—and considering what the success of populist dishonesty in politics means. ...

... The principle of honor, of being expected to keep one’s word, has now almost completely disintegrated in British public life. Instead, the people who made those false claims sit at the top of national politics. Brexit created an age of frauds, where deception was not a barrier to success, but a precondition.

That, in the end, could be the most damaging legacy of Brexit—not the break from Europe or the illusory return of control to “the people.” Its price has been the undermining of truth as a functional concept in British political debate.
https://www.persuasion.community/p/fool-britannia

Ja, sicher werden die Johnsons demnächst allesamt Wahlfranzosen. Bis auf Boris' Mutter, die eine Brexit-Hardlinerin sein soll...
Spass beiseite, ich denke auch, der Start wird Chaos und grosse Verwerfungen produzieren. Allerdings traue ich London instinktiv eine bessere kreative Chaosbewältigung, zu als Brüssel.

View from the EU: Britain 'taken over by gamblers, liars, clowns and their cheerleaders'
European commentators weigh in on what Britain’s departure from the EU means

... But Johnson’s lies were the biggest of all, he said: “‘Take back control,’ Johnson lied to his citizens. But all the British government will finally have achieved is to have taken back control of a little shovel and a little sand castle.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/202...ir-cheerleaders

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Be careful what you wish for: the reality of Brexit
It is said that when the gods wish to punish us, they start by answering our prayers. Which is another way of saying be very careful what you wish for.
https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/be-carefu...lity-of-brexit/

“The English will never develop into a nation of philosophers. They will always prefer instinct to logic and character to intelligence.
But they must get rid of their downright contempt for 'cleverness'. They cannot afford it any longer.
They must grow less tolerant of ugliness, and mentally more adventurous.
And they must stop despising foreigners. They are Europeans and ought to be aware of it.”
― George Orwell,

David Henig@DavidHenigUK
Twice the PM has signed up to deals he previously said no PM could sign up for. The level of self-deception in turning these into triumphs is off the scale.

A wise man has suggested that Johnson's self delusions are good for the UK in the way he folds under EU pressure but denies it - that this actually delivers the best result.
But it doesn't do much for the country's politcal debate to have such delusions at the heart of the most important economic relationship. And they don't have such delusions in Belfast.
Perhaps it is the way of UK politics that no leader can be seen to be pro-EU, that the UK must be seen to be bigger than the EU, even though the UK is obviously smaller and needs the EU for trade.
On current precedent the UK will continue to lean towards the EU in practice but deny it in principle. All the EU has to do is threaten us with tariffs, and after bluster, here will come the concession.
And obviously you are going to struggle to win a negotiation when your public position is totally at odds with reality, and your actual position. But you can win the media.
Still going to be very hard to rebuild international business confidence in a UK unable to give a straight answer about relations with the EU.
As for a US trade deal, anyone want to trust the Prime Minister's word that UK farmers will be protected? Do you think the US will be impressed if he threatens to walk away?
The fracturing of UK politics into the comic book version of heroes and villains, and the real one of trade-offs and choices. But the first is more fun, and the PM plays it well. The second one is dull by comparison.
The challenges for the future. For the PM, keep politics away from the real world. For Labour, either the opposite, or get better at story telling. For business, identify how to navigate the gap between their real world and Johnson's fictional one.
The high drama phase of Brexit is over. Boris Johnson and the EU won. Many books will now be written about why and how. Now for the dull grind of implementation. There might be different winners and losers. /end
4:03 AM · Dec 27, 2020

One of the best assessments I have read so far.