#4751

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 17:58
von Maga-neu | 35.163 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4749

... Der Wahlforscher John Curtice warnte die in London regierenden Tories daher jüngst unmissverständlich: "Noch nie war die öffentliche Unterstützung für die Union so schwach wie derzeit."
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/c...5a-cdae6600e454
Okay, wenn der SPIEGEL das schreibt, bin ich beruhigt. Die Prognosen des "rags" bzgl. Trump-Wahl und Brexit-Abstimmung lagen gnadenlos daneben. Die Marschrichtung scheint sich aber geändert zu haben, nachdem das Blatt bei dem Schottland-Referendum noch gegen die SNP geschossen hatte. Gut, Sturgeon weiß, wie man sich die bullshitter in den Mainstream-Medien gewogen macht.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edi...-first-18365246



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#4752

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 18:27
von Willie (gelöscht)
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John Curtice reveals surge in pro-Scottish independence votes as Sturgeon's dream boosted
JOHN CURTICE has revealed there has been a shift in support towards Scottish independence from both pro-EU and Brexit supporters in Scotland.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/130906...land-news-polls


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#4753

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 18:29
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Boris Johnson warned Nicola Sturgeon steps closer to independent dream due to costly error
NICOLA STURGEON may be a step closer to Scottish Independence as recent opinion polls send a stark warning to Boris Johnson.

Political scientist and expert John Curtice warned Boris Johnson's coronavirus response may be the key reason First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has more support for an independent Scotland now. While on Times Radio with Matt Chorley, Mr Curtice claimed recent polling suggests more people now want Scotland to be independent from the UK. Mr Curtice argued the reception Boris Johnson has received for his decision making during the coronavirus pandemic may have sparked the increase for support and could spell trouble for the Prime Minister in the near future.

Mr Cutice said: "The movement from no to yes on independence, amongst those that voted Remain on Brexit was outpacing movement in the opposite direction last year.
"As a result from April through to December, the polls were saying yes 49, no 51.
"In recent opinion polls, we have now seen a further increase in support for Scottish Independence.
"The last three polls, show 52 percent, 54 percent and 54 percent.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/130884...-curtice-latest


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#4754

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 18:37
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John Curtice: Scotland's place in Union 'now less certain than it ever has been'
The polling guru was speaking on Times Radio when he was asked to predict whether or not Scots would vote for independence within the next four years.

The professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde refused to say one or the other, but he did say that he believed much of the recent move to Yes in the polls was fuelled by coronavirus and how Scots viewed Nicola Sturgeon’s handling of the pandemic.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/185798...tain-ever-been/


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#4755

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 18:50
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Brexit: Do Britons now agree about leaving the EU?
Following the Conservatives' decisive general election victory, the UK is leaving the European Union.

But where does the public now stand on Brexit and what do they think it should mean for immigration and the economy?
Do most voters now support Brexit?
Despite the Conservatives' election success, polls conducted during the campaign suggested - as they had done for the last two years - that there was a small but consistent majority in favour of remaining in the EU.

On average, the last half dozen polls before the election put Remain on 53% and Leave on 47%. According to these polls, most Remain (88%) and Leave voters (86%) would vote the same way as in the 2016 referendum. However, those who did not vote in 2016 back Remain by two to one (53% to 26%). ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51268688

Nach vorstehendem spielt es letztlich keine grosse Rolle, ob es einen No-Deal Brexit, oder einen Deal Brexit gibt. Alleine entscheidend wird sein welche wirtschaftlichen Auswirkungen es danach fuer das UK gibt.
Was immer nach dem 1.1. 2021 diesbezueglich passiert wird diejenigen, die damals ueberhaupt nicht gewaehlt haben, ganz schnell von den Zuschauertribuenen in die Arena zum mitmachen bringen. Und dann gibt es neue Mehrheiten. Grosse Mehrheiten.
Denn nichts macht Leute mehr flott als "when it hits you in your own wallet". Und das wird es in jedem Falle tun. In jedem Falle!

Und 'nach der Wahl' ist auch immer wieder 'vor der Wahl'.
My guess is that BoJo and the conserves will have a lot of shit coming their way in the new year. But that's just my guess of course. The guess of a forward looking progressive liberal. :-)



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#4756

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 19:45
von Maga-neu | 35.163 Beiträge

The SNP majority Scottish Government stated in its 2013 white paper on independence that the 2014 referendum would be a "once in a generation opportunity to follow a different path, and choose a new and better direction for our nation". ... The "leave" side won the EU referendum with 52% of the vote across the UK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_s...ross%20the%20UK.

Ich wusste gar nicht, dass eine Generation inzwischen nur noch sechs Jahre dauert.

Die Legislaturperiode in UK dauert übrigens fünf Jahre; da im letzten Jahr gewählt wurde (im Dezember), hat Boris noch viereinhalb Jahre Zeit.



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#4757

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 20:25
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Reality punctures Britain’s Brexit balloon
Costly border plans undermine the economic case for leaving the EU

The more the government talks of economic benefits, the more apparent it becomes that these opportunities are conceptual while the disadvantages are all too apparent. The economic case for Brexit was tacked on relatively late to counter the arguments of the Remain side. It did the job but its hollowness is now being exposed.

Britain is about to discover the hard way that while Leavers were sincere in many of their political beliefs about Brexit, their economic arguments were, and are still, a costly and damaging sham.
https://www.ft.com/content/29276560-c74f...81-eb7f2a294e50

It's going to hit them them in the wallet. Everybody. And badly.



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#4758

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 20:30
von Willie (gelöscht)
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The Tories’ latest Brexit plans expose frictionless trade as a fiction
Firms trying to rebuild after lockdown are being plunged into more uncertainty by this incompetent government

... As with coronavirus, the overwhelming impression is of amateur ideologues playing games with other people’s lives, in thrall to Johnson’s sloganising aide Dominic Cummings. Many Britons used to have a blind faith that their governing class was a Rolls-Royce. It could muddle through any crisis. But Cummings has shattered that myth: he and Johnson have already devastated the reputation of British healthcare worldwide. This week they proffer the fatuous “Let’s get going” as an alternative to frictionless dealings with Britain’s neighbouring trading bloc.

There are no deals with the rest of the world to remotely compensate for withdrawing from the EU single market. The only two that might help, with the US and China, are beyond any plausible horizon. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...de-as-a-fiction


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#4759

RE: Brexit

in Politik 17.07.2020 23:48
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Johnson must be mad if he thinks Britain can afford a no-deal Brexit
Does Boris Johnson want to go down in history – or just down and down? At present all the signs are that, if he goes on in the direction he and his frightful lieutenant Dominic Cummings are heading, he will go down (and down and down) as having run the most disastrous government most of us can remember. Moreover, he will be forgiven by neither this generation nor the next.

... Well, it becomes more obvious by the day that a no-deal Brexit would be an unmitigated disaster, and both Johnson and Sunak have access to unpublished government forecasts of just what a disaster it would be. It is obvious to the Treasury that no-deal Brexit and Johnson’s “FDR” ambitions are irreconcilable.

Regrettably, this strange country has left the EU and is merely enjoying a period of grace. The sensible option is to conduct negotiations in a manner that keeps us as close as possible to the EU. This, by the way, is what pollsters tell us the majority of Britons – who are now majority-Remain! – now want.

For the moment, however, the behaviour of our so-called leaders calls to mind a classical quotation that may be familiar to Johnson: Quem deus vult perdere, prius dementat. “Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...-no-deal-brexit


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#4760

RE: Brexit

in Politik 19.07.2020 23:52
von Willie (gelöscht)
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#4761

RE: Brexit

in Politik 21.07.2020 16:12
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Official Russia Report: U.K. ‘Actively Avoided’ Probing Kremlin’s Role in Brexit Referendum
Britain’s Intelligence and Security Committee “outraged” that the Conservative government failed to investigate the Kremlin’s interference or protect the 2016 Brexit referendum.

Britain’s Conservative government never bothered to find out whether the Brexit referendum was influenced by the Kremlin, according to a scathing report by parliament’s Intelligence and Security Committee.
The extraordinary finding was at the heart of a report that Prime Minister Boris Johnson has repeatedly sought to delay—despite it being ready for publication nine months ago.

Kevan Jones, a Labour member of the committee, said it was a “scandal” that No. 10 had never ordered Britain’s extensive intelligence agencies to look into the safety of British elections despite seeing evidence of interference in the 2014 Scottish election and the leak of Democratic emails ahead of the U.S. presidential election in 2016.
“The outrage isn’t that there was interference. The outrage is that no one has wanted to know if there was interference,” Jones said. ...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-rep...fedc32c19ef33b4


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#4762

RE: Brexit

in Politik 21.07.2020 16:48
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Bericht des britischen Parlaments
Kreml wollte Referendum in Schottland beeinflussen
Eine Analyse aus dem britischen Geheimdienstausschuss zeigt: Russland hat versucht, sich in Schottlands Unabhängigkeitsreferendum einzumischen. Auch zum Brexit-Referendum gibt es Fragen - und Kritik an der Regierung.
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/r...78-fd3fe69c7397


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#4763

RE: Brexit

in Politik 22.07.2020 20:34
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Those were the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp85zRg2cwg

When both countries were still guided by intellect, decency and sanity.



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#4764

RE: Brexit

in Politik 23.07.2020 18:17
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UK abandons hope of US trade deal by end of year
Officials blame coronavirus pandemic for slow progress as negotiators disagree over key issues
https://www.ft.com/content/383f174e-baa4...c3-d2b5f6453fd4


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#4765

RE: Brexit

in Politik 23.07.2020 20:09
von mbockstette | 12.376 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4763
Those were the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp85zRg2cwg

When both countries were still guided by intellect, decency and sanity.


and eloquence, style and humor!


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#4766

RE: Brexit

in Politik 23.07.2020 20:28
von Nante | 10.428 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #4765
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4763
Those were the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp85zRg2cwg

When both countries were still guided by intellect, decency and sanity.


and eloquence, style and humor!




Das kann man Obama nicht absprechen. Als der den Brand des Weißen Hauses erwähnte, mußte ich auch lachen - so als Ausdruck der speziellen Beziehungen...


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#4767

RE: Brexit

in Politik 23.07.2020 20:53
von Rico (gelöscht)
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yang style 49


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#4768

RE: Brexit

in Politik 23.07.2020 22:28
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Congratulations to Jürgen Klopp for leading Liverpool to the Premier League title.

Not just an exceptionally talented football manager, but a great guy too.


https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...9a9&oe=5F4163DF


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#4769

RE: Brexit

in Politik 24.07.2020 03:35
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Pressure from Trump led to 5G ban, Britain tells Huawei
‘Geopolitical’ factors were behind the move, the company was told, with hints that the decision could be reversed in future

The British government privately told the Chinese technology giant Huawei that it was being banned from Britain’s 5G telecoms network partly for “geopolitical” reasons following huge pressure from President Donald Trump, the Observer has learned.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...azqMNwa8A3eryp4

They left Europe because they wanted to be "free". "Rule Britannia ..." and so on.
And now Mango Mussolini tells them what to do. :-)



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#4770

RE: Brexit

in Politik 24.07.2020 20:13
von Maga-neu | 35.163 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #4765
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4763
Those were the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp85zRg2cwg

When both countries were still guided by intellect, decency and sanity.


and eloquence, style and humor!



https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ein...126da04d037e211


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#4771

RE: Brexit

in Politik 24.07.2020 20:34
von Maga-neu | 35.163 Beiträge

Zitat von Nante im Beitrag #4766
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #4765
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4763
Those were the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp85zRg2cwg

When both countries were still guided by intellect, decency and sanity.


and eloquence, style and humor!




Das kann man Obama nicht absprechen. Als der den Brand des Weißen Hauses erwähnte, mußte ich auch lachen - so als Ausdruck der speziellen Beziehungen...
Es stimmt, er machte bella figura. Bella figura machen und ein Staatsmann sein, sind allerdings zwei Paar Schuhe.


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#4772

RE: Brexit

in Politik 25.07.2020 09:55
von Hans Bergman | 23.327 Beiträge

Zitat von Nante im Beitrag #4766
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #4765
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4763
Those were the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp85zRg2cwg

When both countries were still guided by intellect, decency and sanity.


and eloquence, style and humor!




Das kann man Obama nicht absprechen. Als der den Brand des Weißen Hauses erwähnte, mußte ich auch lachen - so als Ausdruck der speziellen Beziehungen...

Humor hat er sicher: diese gekonnt gespielte Entrüstung, als man ihm hierzulande das Abhören von Merkels Handy vorhielt. Das wäre einen Ehren-Oscar wert gewesen.
Na gut, ich bin schon etwas älter und verwende noch die alte Bezeichnung für diese Art Humor: ekelhafte Heuchelei.



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#4773

RE: Brexit

in Politik 25.07.2020 10:04
von Rico (gelöscht)
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Der Obamaclan ist eine klassische PR Agentur.


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#4774

RE: Brexit

in Politik 27.07.2020 05:16
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Boris Johnson's government is privately 'desperate' for Trump to lose the election to Joe Biden
The UK government is privately "desperate" for Donald Trump to lose the upcoming presidential election and be replaced by Joe Biden, according to a report by the Sunday Times.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is publicly one of Trump's closest international allies.

However, his government has been privately trying to distance itself from the US president, in anticipation of a potential Biden victory in November, the Times reports.
"It would make things much easier if Trump doesn't win re-election," one minister in Johnson's government told the Times' reporter Tim Shipman, who added that "privately, many [others in the government] agree."

Some UK officials are also hopeful of a Biden victory.
One senior UK diplomat, who asked not to be named, told Insider earlier this month that a Biden presidency would bring a welcome end to the "venal corruption" of the Trump era.
"A lot of stuff will change if Biden wins," the diplomat said.

"The venal corruption of the Trump family and the nasty narcissistic aspects of his behavior — all that will go with a different sort of president," they said. ...
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t...mMSZTmyr8-kggA8


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#4775

RE: Brexit

in Politik 12.09.2020 19:08
von Rico (gelöscht)
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Bei den Brexit Verhandlungen wird ein Tempo an den Tag gelegt wie beim Bau eines Trabis.


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