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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4300Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4296Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #4295
...Bei Geldwäsche und Steuerbetrug war die City natürlich völlig unbeteiligt (UK als Steuerparadies ist ein angedachtes zukünftiges Geschäftsmodell), "liberale" Wirtschaft ich Markenzeichen des UK und es war schon weitestgehend deindustrialisiert, als Europa Süd/Ost beigetreten ist bei Grenzen und Flüchtlingsverteilung stimme ich Dir zu, es ging aber um Handelsabkommen,.
Ich glaube nicht, dass Britannia z. B. mit Kanada oder Australien keine guten Verträge abschließen wird. Da gibt es auch engere Verbindungen als mit dem Schrotthaufen EU.
"The EU is better placed to strike trade deals with the US, or China, than the UK on it's own."
-Boris Johnson in 2013-
Manche lernen eben dazu. Andere wiederum nicht.
Iain Duncan-Smith admits the 'difficult' bit of Brexit is still to come
Despite his leader claiming he had got Brexit 'done' and had reached the 'finish line', newly-knighted Duncan-Smith said what happens next will be 'difficult'.
He told talkRADIO: "It's not just about making trade deals. This next phase is in many senses going to be the most difficult phase of all."
He is the latest politician to wake up to the reality that now we are in a transition period the UK's influence at the EU will dwindle.
"In this period we are subject to European law but we have no vote.
"This is a period when if the EU wants to and wants to try to be awkward and difficult it could start trying to impose laws on us which we have no say over."
Duncan-Smith said that the UK must "settle this, one way or another, inside the next 12 months" despite the European Union warning it could take longer.
He said Johnson needed to resolve it by the end of 2020 to avoid "exposing ourselves for any long period of time to the idea that we are without any protection whatsoever against imposed law".
Duncan-Smith said that Britain would have to "up our game way past where we've been at the moment" to strike a trade deal with the EU.
He admitted the EU were "rather good at them", and suggested that the UK may have to look further afield in case talks break down.
It feels like talk of an "oven-ready" Brexit deal "ready to go" is now a long time ago...
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...rwMfI5d-yw0qo-0
And they brought it all onto themselves. Without any need. Purely by succumbing to emotional bullshit. "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves..."
Yep, that will put food on the table. If not, then at least a warm and fuzzy feeling into the hearts of the hungry and impoverished. That will do.
Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4301Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4300Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4296Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #4295
...Bei Geldwäsche und Steuerbetrug war die City natürlich völlig unbeteiligt (UK als Steuerparadies ist ein angedachtes zukünftiges Geschäftsmodell), "liberale" Wirtschaft ich Markenzeichen des UK und es war schon weitestgehend deindustrialisiert, als Europa Süd/Ost beigetreten ist bei Grenzen und Flüchtlingsverteilung stimme ich Dir zu, es ging aber um Handelsabkommen,.
Ich glaube nicht, dass Britannia z. B. mit Kanada oder Australien keine guten Verträge abschließen wird. Da gibt es auch engere Verbindungen als mit dem Schrotthaufen EU.
"The EU is better placed to strike trade deals with the US, or China, than the UK on it's own."
-Boris Johnson in 2013-
Manche lernen eben dazu. Andere wiederum nicht.
Was konkret hat Boris entgegen seiner obenstehenden Aussage nun konkret dazu gelernt?
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4303Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4301Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4300Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4296Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #4295
...Bei Geldwäsche und Steuerbetrug war die City natürlich völlig unbeteiligt (UK als Steuerparadies ist ein angedachtes zukünftiges Geschäftsmodell), "liberale" Wirtschaft ich Markenzeichen des UK und es war schon weitestgehend deindustrialisiert, als Europa Süd/Ost beigetreten ist bei Grenzen und Flüchtlingsverteilung stimme ich Dir zu, es ging aber um Handelsabkommen,.
Ich glaube nicht, dass Britannia z. B. mit Kanada oder Australien keine guten Verträge abschließen wird. Da gibt es auch engere Verbindungen als mit dem Schrotthaufen EU.
"The EU is better placed to strike trade deals with the US, or China, than the UK on it's own."
-Boris Johnson in 2013-
Manche lernen eben dazu. Andere wiederum nicht.
Was konkret hat Boris entgegen seiner obenstehenden Aussage nun konkret dazu gelernt?
Da wird nichts gescheites kommen, weil es bezüglich Handelsabkommen dazu nichts gescheites gibt. Hans sonnt sich nur gern in seiner Universalkritik.
Pro-Brexit Tory minister says it's 'essential' free movement is protected
He explained: "Touring is absolutely the lifeblood of the industry and we recognise the importance of the continued ease of movement of musicians, equipment and merchandise once we've left the EU.
"Visa rules for artists performing in the EU will not change until the implementation period ends in December 2020. But these are being considered, with other activity, and we welcome the views of [MPs] and the industry in respect of movement within Europe.
"It's absolutely essential that free movement for artists is protected post-2020." ....
... His calls have been met with a mixed response from those keen to point out it is his government taking away the rights of free movement.
"With free movement for artists and fish from Grimsby looking for exceptions from Brexit, what about the rest of us?
I want some of what they are smoking," wrote one. ...
"So why are you abolishing it's then?" asked Helen Salmon.
"They have it. You're taking it away," said James O'Brien.
"Did anyone tell you that Brexit removes free movement of people?" posted @implausibleblog.
"That's what we've been screaming about for the last 3 something years," added Chrissie Greech.
"What? He voted 'against' guaranteeing the rights of UK nationals in the EU and EU nationals legally resident in the UK. That includes musicians," pointed out Louise Rowntree.
"Perhaps Brexiters like Nigel Adams should have thought about this earlier," said Tom Scott.
"Finally sinking in is it?" asked Alan Lumb. "Do you think there might be parallels across all industries?"
Others pointed out it appeared to be Brexiteers complaining the most now about the consequences of Brexit.
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...-week-1-6478086
Vorstehend illuminiert die Weisheit der Brexiteers ganz gut. Wie ich schon sagte, es wird noch schwer lustig werden, wenn erst mal die Realitaet -der volle Umfang der Konsequenzen aus der Tat- unuebersehbar einsetzt.
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4306
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Willie, fahr'n Sie doch mal nach Gary rüber, dürfte ja nicht allzuweit von Ihnen entfernt sein. Wenn Sie glauben, in Engand würde es nach dem Brexit einen ebenso trostlosen heruntergewirtschafteten Ort geben, sagen Sie's mir.
Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4307Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4306
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Willie, fahr'n Sie doch mal nach Gary rüber, dürfte ja nicht allzuweit von Ihnen entfernt sein. Wenn Sie glauben, in Engand würde es nach dem Brexit einen ebenso trostlosen heruntergewirtschafteten Ort geben, sagen Sie's mir.
Ich weiss, wie es dort aussieht. Aber Gary ist ja auch nicht in der EU, sondern in trumski und Mike Pence (ehemaliger Governor von Indiana) Land angesiedelt. :-)
Und im uebrigen gibt es hier Gegenden, die sind um ein vielfaches schlimmer als Gary. Hauptsaechlich in von konservativen gefuehrten Staaten.
Gary ist noch nicht einmal so schlecht.
Was ich ihnen zum UK sagen kann ist, dass Brexit sich als ein einzigartiger teurer Flop erweisen wird. Davon bin ich mehr denn je ueberzeugt, denn denn alle wirtschaftlichen Metrics weisen eindeutig darauf hin.
Die einzigen, die was anderes behaupten, sind entweder ausgewiesene Luegner, oder Traumtaenzer, die nicht wissen wovon sie reden.
Sollte ich mich irren und es anders kommen, dann werde ich hier gerne meine Unwissenheit zugeben. Sie koennen also dieses Posting schon mal aufheben fuer den Moment wenn es soweit ist.
Die Blamage nehme ich bereitwillig in Kauf.
In der Praxis wird es wohl soweit sein, dass man sich in UK -when it is all set and done- am Ende genau da wiederfindet, wo man vor dem Brexit stand. Als EU Mitglied, oder ohne. Abzueglich der Kosten fuer die Lehruebung und der Erfahrungsmachung. Die bekommen sie naemlich nie wieder von irgendwo zurueck.
Wie beim Gambling im Casino -nachdem man festgestellt hat, dass man sich um Haus und Hof spielt. Lehrgeld eben.
Teures Lehrgeld und allesamt vermeidbar.
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4308Ich würde Ihre "Unwissenheit" nicht als Blamage sehen - egal welche Folgen der Brexit haben wird. Als Blamage sehe ich, wenn jemand behauptet, er wisse, was der Brexit für Folgen hat.
...Was ich ihnen zum UK sagen kann ist, dass Brexit sich als ein einzigartiger teurer Flop erweisen wird. Davon bin ich mehr denn je ueberzeugt, denn denn alle wirtschaftlichen Metrics weisen eindeutig darauf hin.
Die einzigen, die was anderes behaupten, sind entweder ausgewiesene Luegner, oder Traumtaenzer, die nicht wissen wovon sie reden.
Sollte ich mich irren und es anders kommen, dann werde ich hier gerne meine Unwissenheit zugeben. Sie koennen also dieses Posting schon mal aufheben fuer den Moment wenn es soweit ist.
Die Blamage nehme ich bereitwillig in Kauf....[/blau]
Nur zur Erinnerung: Die Vorhersagen der Wirtschaftsweisen hat in vierzig (40!) Jahren nicht ein einziges Mal gestimmt.
Ich glaube eben, der Brexit habe keine besonderen Folgen. UK war noch nie richtig EU, sie haben sich beteiligt, um sich ein paar Rosinen herauszupicken und gesehen, dass dies ein Nullsummenspiel mit überflüssiger Abhängigkeit ist.
Und was zählen schon ein paar Pfund mehr oder weniger auf dem Konto oder im Staatshaushalt, wenn man mit Stolz sagen kann: "Wir sind kein Mitglied der EU..."
https://www.tichyseinblick.de/kolumnen/a...legen-veto-ein/
Während ein stolzes Land sich Ende des Monats aus dem Brüsseler Club verabschiedet und in Italien die letzten Bastionen der Progressiven fallen, geht der Streit in Brüssel weiter. Natürlich würde die Regierung in Rom nicht ihr Veto einlegen, säße der pöhse Salvini ihr nicht im Nacken. So kann man auch in der Opposition Politik treiben.
https://www.facebook.com/CIVILIZATIONINS...?type=3&theater
Hier, Willie, deine Gesinnungsfreunde in Aktion. :-))
Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4309Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4308
...Was ich ihnen zum UK sagen kann ist, dass Brexit sich als ein einzigartiger teurer Flop erweisen wird. Davon bin ich mehr denn je ueberzeugt, denn denn alle wirtschaftlichen Metrics weisen eindeutig darauf hin.
Die einzigen, die was anderes behaupten, sind entweder ausgewiesene Luegner, oder Traumtaenzer, die nicht wissen wovon sie reden.
Sollte ich mich irren und es anders kommen, dann werde ich hier gerne meine Unwissenheit zugeben. Sie koennen also dieses Posting schon mal aufheben fuer den Moment wenn es soweit ist.
Die Blamage nehme ich bereitwillig in Kauf....[/blau]
Und was zählen schon ein paar Pfund mehr oder weniger auf dem Konto oder im Staatshaushalt, wenn man mit Stolz sagen kann: "Wir sind kein Mitglied der EU..."
Das Bergmann, das ist ein echter Aufheber. Ein Superstatement, das eingerahmt und an die Wand gehaengt gehoert.
"Der Stolz, der Stolz, der lustige Stolz ....":-)
The Toll of Empty Nationalism
The Brexit Bell Ends
As Big Ben (doesn’t) count down to ‘Brexit Day’ on 31 January, Otto English considers how Britain fell into the grip of a petty nationalism, warned against by the world’s greatest physicist.
In October 1929, during an unsettling interview with the fascist journalist George Viereck in the Saturday Evening Post, Albert Einstein was asked if he considered himself to be a German or a Jew.
“It is quite possible to be both,” the great physicist replied. “I look upon myself as a man. Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.”
Einstein was then on the board of the International Committee of Intellectual Cooperation at the League of Nations in Geneva. The ICIC sought to be a hub of global academic collaboration that transcended the limitations of mere nation states and Einstein embodied its idealism. Here was a man, internationalist in outlook and comfortable in his identity, who had no time for the trifles of petty jingoism. His view of nationalism seems ever more pertinent.
There is of course a clear distinction between nationalism and patriotism. The latter, meaning devotion to where you live and pride in your state, is a noble trait. Nationalism, by contrast, is a blind faith in your nation’s exceptionalism. It is cult-like, self-deceptive, ignorant and dangerous.
Nationalists imagine themselves unique by dint of the fluke of their place of birth. They believe their country to be better and their culture superior to all else. It is possible to be both patriotic and internationalist but, if you are a nationalist, then you are that and that alone. It’s a hollow state of mind; a vacant dogma and, when given its chance to shine, this emptiness shows.
And so to Brexit.
The Bell Tolls
As the clock ticks down to our departure from the EU, the devotees of this destructive cult have been confronted with a dilemma. How to celebrate this phoney liberation in a way that makes it look like it matters?
Some of the work has been done already.
Three million Brexit Day 50 pence pieces, with the words “peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations” are set to be released on 31 January. On the same day, the Prime Minister will be the first person to receive one as he holds a gimmicky Cabinet meeting in the north of England.
Nationalists love totemic nonsense and there’s plenty more to come.
2020 will see the return of the ‘iconic’ blue passport. Nigel Farage spent much of the EU referendum campaign in 2016 trotting about the place, producing an old-fashioned cardboard one from his breast pocket and declaring that we could have these back if only we left.
As with his obsession with the tiny British fishing industry, this was palpable bollocks. The shape and design of passports has nothing to do with the EU and is decided by the International Civil Aviation Authority, based in Montreal. Sure, the burgundy colour was adopted by accord between European Community countries in 1988, but not all EU countries have abided by it. The UK could easily have changed the colour without Brexit happening. ...
...Celebrations to Come
Of course, if this was really Britain’s day of liberation, then celebrations would be unbridled. That everything is so muted suggests that, four years on from the EU Referendum, people are rightly sick of the whole thing and couldn’t care less any more.
That this advanced country, with hundreds of years of parliamentary democracy under its belt, should be indulging in such humiliating stupidity demonstrates Einstein’s point: Great Britain has fallen prey to a petty-minded, child-like nationalism that has infected us all.
Still, don’t lose hope party lovers because, sooner or later, there will be something to celebrate.
Our child-prince Prime Minister has promised to “Get Brexit Done” and, as we stumble forward beyond 31 January and as the full meaningless of that pledge becomes apparent, I think we will all look forward to the celebration on the night of his predictable downfall.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/01/24/the-t...4SfPWF297mkiaEM
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4314Vielleicht sollte man einen Historiker und nicht einen Physiker nach dem Nationalismus befragen. Nur mal so als Idee... Oder erklären demnächst Historiker schwarze Löcher und Antimaterie?
The Toll of Empty Nationalism
The Brexit Bell Ends
As Big Ben (doesn’t) count down to ‘Brexit Day’ on 31 January, Otto English considers how Britain fell into the grip of a petty nationalism, warned against by the world’s greatest physicist.
In October 1929, during an unsettling interview with the fascist journalist George Viereck in the Saturday Evening Post, Albert Einstein was asked if he considered himself to be a German or a Jew.
“It is quite possible to be both,” the great physicist replied. “I look upon myself as a man. Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.”
Einstein was then on the board of the International Committee of Intellectual Cooperation at the League of Nations in Geneva. The ICIC sought to be a hub of global academic collaboration that transcended the limitations of mere nation states and Einstein embodied its idealism. Here was a man, internationalist in outlook and comfortable in his identity, who had no time for the trifles of petty jingoism. His view of nationalism seems ever more pertinent.
There is of course a clear distinction between nationalism and patriotism. The latter, meaning devotion to where you live and pride in your state, is a noble trait. Nationalism, by contrast, is a blind faith in your nation’s exceptionalism. It is cult-like, self-deceptive, ignorant and dangerous.
Nationalists imagine themselves unique by dint of the fluke of their place of birth. They believe their country to be better and their culture superior to all else. It is possible to be both patriotic and internationalist but, if you are a nationalist, then you are that and that alone. It’s a hollow state of mind; a vacant dogma and, when given its chance to shine, this emptiness shows.
And so to Brexit.
The Bell Tolls
As the clock ticks down to our departure from the EU, the devotees of this destructive cult have been confronted with a dilemma. How to celebrate this phoney liberation in a way that makes it look like it matters?
Some of the work has been done already.
Three million Brexit Day 50 pence pieces, with the words “peace, prosperity and friendship with all nations” are set to be released on 31 January. On the same day, the Prime Minister will be the first person to receive one as he holds a gimmicky Cabinet meeting in the north of England.
Nationalists love totemic nonsense and there’s plenty more to come.
2020 will see the return of the ‘iconic’ blue passport. Nigel Farage spent much of the EU referendum campaign in 2016 trotting about the place, producing an old-fashioned cardboard one from his breast pocket and declaring that we could have these back if only we left.
As with his obsession with the tiny British fishing industry, this was palpable bollocks. The shape and design of passports has nothing to do with the EU and is decided by the International Civil Aviation Authority, based in Montreal. Sure, the burgundy colour was adopted by accord between European Community countries in 1988, but not all EU countries have abided by it. The UK could easily have changed the colour without Brexit happening. ...
...Celebrations to Come
Of course, if this was really Britain’s day of liberation, then celebrations would be unbridled. That everything is so muted suggests that, four years on from the EU Referendum, people are rightly sick of the whole thing and couldn’t care less any more.
That this advanced country, with hundreds of years of parliamentary democracy under its belt, should be indulging in such humiliating stupidity demonstrates Einstein’s point: Great Britain has fallen prey to a petty-minded, child-like nationalism that has infected us all.
Still, don’t lose hope party lovers because, sooner or later, there will be something to celebrate.
Our child-prince Prime Minister has promised to “Get Brexit Done” and, as we stumble forward beyond 31 January and as the full meaningless of that pledge becomes apparent, I think we will all look forward to the celebration on the night of his predictable downfall.
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/01/24/the-t...4SfPWF297mkiaEM
"Bündnispartner bei dem Ausbruchsversuch seien nicht die traditionellen Fans des Königshauses, von denen wenig Verständnis zu erwarten sei, ließ der Autor seine Leser wissen. Alliierte seien vielmehr alle, „die nicht in die alten Strukturen der britischen Gesellschaft passen“: Schwarze, Muslime, Frauen, Einwanderer, kurzum diejenigen, die „die Selbstermächtigung eines jeden und einer jeden über das Anspruchsdenken der anderen stellen, die sich von den auferlegten Lebenswelten emanzipieren wollen, die für Antirassismus und Feminismus eintreten“.
Ich bin vor Lachen fast vom Stuhl gekippt, als ich das las. Harry und Meghan als Hoffnungsträger aller Diskriminierungsopfer? Wenn es jemanden gibt, der sich vor Bewunderung nicht retten kann, dann das britische Adelspaar. Es gibt auch nicht viel, was Meghan und Harry mit, sagen wir, einer polnischen Putzfrau oder einem rumänischen Klempner verbindet, außer dass die einen die Steuern zahlen, von denen die andern ihre Häuser renovieren lassen. Aber so nüchtern können selbst linke Journalisten die Dinge im Meghan-Rausch nicht sehen."
https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland...pjAoFkJur6thU-s
Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4317Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4313
...Das Bergmann, das ist ein echter Aufheber. Ein Superstatement, das eingerahmt und an die Wand gehaengt gehoert.
"Der Stolz, der Stolz, der lustige Stolz ....":-)
Muss wohl ein Segen für jeden sein, der ganz ohne auskommt...
"... was zählen schon ein paar Pfund mehr oder weniger auf dem Konto oder im Staatshaushalt, wenn man mit Stolz sagen kann: "Wir sind kein Mitglied der EU.."
😂
Poorer areas that backed Tories face fresh funding cuts as cash switched to wealthy southern regions
New Conservative MPs representing seats losing out challenged to stand up to Boris Johnson – before cash is diverted to Surrey and Hampshire
Poorer areas that delivered Boris Johnson’s election triumph are facing fresh cuts to local services – as funds are switched to wealthy Southern shires instead.
Hundreds of millions of pounds will be diverted because of a new formula which significantly downgrades the importance of deprivation in assessing need, an analysis shows. ...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...y-a9301281.html
Trump’s ambassador to UK insists chlorine-washed chicken should not be banned as trade tensions mount
US ambassador suggests introducing chemical washing to British farms
The US ambassador to Britain has stepped into the future of the UK’s trade talks with Washington by saying not only should chlorine-washed chicken be allowed in the UK, it should be embraced by the nation’s farmers.
The government has repeatedly vowed not to allow the cheap poultry products washed in chemicals to enter the market in the event of a US trade deal – with environment secretary Theresa Villiers saying the nation “will not be importing chlorinated chicken” earlier this month. ...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...y-a9302506.html
Es wird bereits am Schraubstock gedreht. Mal sehen wessen Eier da drin stecken. :-)
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4318Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4317Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4313
...Das Bergmann, das ist ein echter Aufheber. Ein Superstatement, das eingerahmt und an die Wand gehaengt gehoert.
"Der Stolz, der Stolz, der lustige Stolz ....":-)
Muss wohl ein Segen für jeden sein, der ganz ohne auskommt...
"... was zählen schon ein paar Pfund mehr oder weniger auf dem Konto oder im Staatshaushalt, wenn man mit Stolz sagen kann: "Wir sind kein Mitglied der EU.."
😂
Willie, das UK ist ein Staat mit einer langen glorreichen Geschichte, nicht ein Land, in dem man den Fund rostiger Hufnägel aus dem 19. Jahrhundert als archäologische Kostbarkeit erachtet.
Das ist der Unterschied.
Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4321Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4318Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #4317Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #4313
...Das Bergmann, das ist ein echter Aufheber. Ein Superstatement, das eingerahmt und an die Wand gehaengt gehoert.
"Der Stolz, der Stolz, der lustige Stolz ....":-)
Muss wohl ein Segen für jeden sein, der ganz ohne auskommt...
"... was zählen schon ein paar Pfund mehr oder weniger auf dem Konto oder im Staatshaushalt, wenn man mit Stolz sagen kann: "Wir sind kein Mitglied der EU.."
😂
Willie, das UK ist ein Staat mit einer langen glorreichen Geschichte, nicht ein Land, in dem man den Fund rostiger Hufnägel aus dem 19. Jahrhundert als archäologische Kostbarkeit erachtet.
Das ist der Unterschied.
Muessen sie eigentlich nicht selbst ueber ihren diesbezueglichen Seich grinsen?
Independence Day will expose Brexit as a ruse to free an imaginary nation
Next Friday, Britain officially leaves the EU but it’s difficult to see who or what is being liberated. Perhaps an England without London?
... But here there is a great irony: Britain is not and never has been a nation state. For most of its history as a state, it has been at the heart not of a national polity, but of a vast multinational and polyglot empire. And the UK is itself a four-nation amalgam of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. There is no single pre-EU UK “nation” to return to. There is no unified “people” to whom power is being returned. And this is the contradiction that the Brexit project cannot even acknowledge, let alone resolve.
Scotland and Northern Ireland rejected Brexit even more emphatically in the general election of 2019 than they had done in the referendum of 2016 and a clear majority of voters in the UK as a whole voted in 2019 for parties that promised a second referendum and an opportunity to stay in the EU. So while Johnson likes to talk of 31 January as “this pivotal moment in our national story”, there is neither a settled nation nor a shared story. Brexit is not Northern Ireland’s story. It is not Scotland’s story. It is not even London’s story. It is the national origin myth of the place that Anthony Barnett, co-founder of openDemocracy, calls “England without London”.
There is a particular paradox here when we think back on that great Brexit slogan: take back control. It is that the parts of the UK that have actually “taken back control” into their own local democratic institutions reject Brexit; while the parts that support Brexit have no such institutions. The Scottish parliament, the Welsh Senedd and the Northern Ireland assembly have all voted overwhelmingly in recent weeks to reject the withdrawal agreement. (Their votes will of course be ignored by the government in London.)
But the voters in England who actually want Brexit are not recognised at all as a “people” with a voice of their own. They are nationalist revolutionaries without a political nation. They are creating a country for themselves, but it is one that dare not speak its name.
At the heart of this dilemma is the illusion that a fragile multinational state can play with the fire of nationalism yet not get burned. The allure of leaving a larger multinational political entity and going your own way is very potent. But once you establish it as the core value of politics, where do you stop? Brexit sets in motion the logic that shared sovereignty is unnatural and that all “peoples” must return to the pure dominion of their ancient nations.
However, it then commands the tide of separatism to stop at the current borders of the UK. It dictates that the nation must take back control of its own fate in order to inaugurate for itself what Johnson and Rees-Mogg unblushingly hail as a “golden age”. But apparently the only nation that is supposed to hear this thrilling call of destiny is the new England that has been conjured into being. You would need to be half blind on scrumpy not to see the fatal contradiction.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...maginary-nation
Brexit Britain may soon find itself sinking faster than Venice
The UK faces economic upheaval on a vast scale if it is not, after all, to pursue ‘Brexit in name only’
... The government’s own internal studies and analysis point to a severe threat from abandoning the single market, which was one of the key attractions for foreign companies, not least the Japanese, to invest in those parts of the Midlands and northern England where “getting Brexit done” has proved such a compelling slogan. (By the way, there is nothing new about working-class people voting Conservative!)
On the face of it, the Johnson/Cummings government wants to address those discontents which, ironically, brought it to power via Brexit. Dominic Cummings, Johnson’s chief adviser, wants to end austerity, improve the NHS and satisfy the so-called left behind.
Let us hope they can do this. But it is a mammoth task when they are simultaneously making the country poorer. Already a study by Bloomberg finds that the cost to the economy of the very approach to Brexit taken over the past three years has equalled the entire accumulated cost of our contributions to the Brussels budget – contributions that often flowed back to us via funds from the European Investment Bank.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...onomic-upheaval
Revealed: complex post-Brexit checks for Northern Irish traders
Transport and manufacturing heads criticise paperwork needed to trade with GB
The “straightforward” document that Northern Irish businesses will need to complete to send goods to Great Britain after Brexit is a complex form that includes 31 data elements, it can be revealed.
The Freight Transport Association has raised concerns that hauliers could be fined if they get elements of the “exit summary declaration” wrong, and is calling on the EU and the UK to remove it during their negotiations.
The FTA’s head of European policy, Pauline Bastidon, said: “There are up to 31 data elements in an exit summary declaration required to take goods out of the EU now and post-Brexit (ie out of Northern Ireland) when the mode is road freight. Only two of these are optional, meaning 29 data elements are mandatory.
Stephen Barclay came under fire late last year when, as Brexit secretary, he revealed the forms would be required even though it is a domestic trade route.
The news infuriated the Democratic Unionist party, which had been promised there would be no border down the Irish Sea, and was swiftly downplayed by Barclay, who told the DUP MP Nigel Dodds days later that it was a “fairly straightforward” form.
Days later Boris Johnson was accused of misleading the public when he told business leaders on a visit to Northern Ireland that they could throw the form in the bin.
The exit and entry forms are mandatory and are the two parts of what is known as a safety and security certificate. It is required as part of a counter-terrorism regime devised to protect the US after the 9/11 attacks but is not applicable within the European Union. After Brexit, it will apply in Northern Ireland and on trade moving from Great Britain to the rest of the EU.
Businesses sending goods from Great Britain to Northern Ireland will not be immune either. They face a form involving up to 45 elements. “Only three of these are optional, meaning that 42 data fields are mandatory,” Bastidon said. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/202...n-irish-traders
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